Tuesday, June 30, 2015

Why a high APR doesn't necessarily translate to academic excellence, part II

Ok, I meant to post this a while ago, but there have been some obvious distractions. 

You may remember in June I posted the latest "Academic Progress Rate" scores, or at least the top 25, and questioned if they should be tied to the idea of academic excellence by athletic programs. 

So you don't have to go back and look here they are again:

APR rankings (multi-year scores)
1. Wisconsin 998
2. Northwestern 992
3. Michigan 990
4. Stanford 987
5. Utah State 985
(tie) Nebraska 985
7. Clemson 984
8. Vanderbilt 983
9. Army 981
(tie) Boise State 981
11. Air Force 980
(tie) Rutgers 980
(tie) Boston College 980
14. Notre Dame 978
(tie) Alabama 978
(tie) Georgia Tech 978
17. Virginia Tech 977
(tie) Washington 977
(tie) Louisville 977
(tie) Central Florida 977
(tie) Indiana 977
22. Missouri 976
(tie) Kansas State 976
24. South Carolina 975
25. Minnesota 975
(tie) UCLA 975
(tie) San Jose State 975

Now, if the APR measures whether everyone's on pace to graduate it only makes sense that the rankings would be similar to the actual graduation rates even though there is a bit of a time lag involved in the annual numbers released by the NCAA. Specifically, the Graduation Success Rate covers students who entered school in 2007 and the APR scores are from 2013-14 and measure progress over four academic years.

NCAA’s Graduation Success Rate
1.   Texas-San Antonio
2.    Stanford
3.     Northwestern
4.     Rice
5.     Notre Dame
6.     Air Force
7.     Boston College
8.     Northern Illinois
9.     Central Florida
10.  Wake Forest
11.  UCLA
12.  Army
13.  Penn State
14.  Miami
15.  Utah State
16.  Boise State
17.  Tulane
18.  Rutgers
19.  TCU
20.  Clemson
21.  Florida
22.  Nebraska
23.  Alabama
24.  Temple
25.  Navy

Note: Texas-San Antonio began playing football at the Bowl Subdivision level in 2012.

So how many programs were on both lists (and remember there were 27 on the APR list due to a tie)? 13 -- essentially half. 

That's a significant reason why I stopped using APR scores in favor of actual graduation rates for my annual program rankings ... which I hope to have posted on the blog tomorrow. 

Monday, June 29, 2015

The All-Time Associated Press Poll

I have a few more days before the new gig starts so I've been trying to get up to speed and work on a few databases and things that will be useful down the road. One of those is the All-Time Associated Press Poll. 

Those who have been following me know that I really like this unofficial compilation that settled an uncountable number of arguments over the years, and even use it as one of the 10 categories in my annual programs rankings.

The "poll" was originally compiled and organized by Charles Woodroof, former SEC Assistant Director of Media Relations. However, when the SEC stopped doing so a few years ago I kept updating it on my website database that was recently discontinued. 

So I decided to do so here. 

Basically, the all-time standings are the points totals from every final AP polls, dating back to 1936. 

Specifically, from 1936-961 the wire service ranked 20 teams. From 1962-67 only 10 teams were recognized. From 1968 -88 AP again resumed its Top 20 before expanding to 25 teams in 1989. Points were awarded based on a team’s finish in the final AP poll each year. Points were awarded on a 20-19-18- 17-16-15-14-13-12-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 basis from 1936 to 1988, and a 25-24-23-22-21-20-19-18-17-16-15-14-13-12-11-10-9-8-7-6-5- 4-3-2-1 basis 1989 to the present.

Through 2014 season
                                                            Top     Top     Top                
Rank, Team              Points             20       10       5        1st       2nd
1. Oklahoma               804.5              51       37       28       6          4
2. Ohio State              796                 52       33       23       5          7
3. Alabama                 789                 51       39       22       9          2
4. Michigan                 757                 54       37       15       2          2
5. Notre Dame            738.5              50       36       23       8          5
6. Nebraska                638                 43       30       13       4          2
7. USC                        635                 50       27       18       5          5
8. Texas                      626                 42       26       10       3          2
9. Tennessee              548                 40       23       13       2          4
10. Penn State            521                 39       24       14       2          3
11. Florida State          491.5              27       18       17       3          2
12. LSU                       487                 36       21       9          2          3
13. Georgia                 457.5              32       20       10       1          2
14. Auburn                  449                 34       18       9          2          2
15. Miami (Fla.)           447                 28       15       10       5          4
16. Florida                   435.5              27       17       11       3          1
17. UCLA                    378                 32       17       9          0          1
18. Michigan State      338.5              24       15       9          1          4
19. Arkansas              328                 28       14       4          0          1
20. Texas A&M           299.5              25       12       3          1          0
21. Wisconsin             267                 19       12       3          0          1
22. Georgia Tech        262.5              22       11       5          0          2
22. Washington          261                 20       10       5          0          2
24. Clemson               253                 23       7         1          1          0
25. Ole Miss               250.5              21       10       4          0          2
26. Iowa                      242                 20       12       3          0          1
27. Oregon                  229                 12       9         5          0          3
27. Colorado               218                 18       8         5          1          0
Pittsburgh                   218                 18       10        6          2          1
30. TCU                      213                 14       8          3          1          1
31. Virginia Tech         203                 14       7          1          0          1
32. Stanford                191                 16       8          2          0          1
33. Missouri                190.5              17       8          3          0          0
34. Arizona State        186.5              16       7          3          0          1
35. Minnesota             175                 14       9          5          4          0
36. Army                     174                 14       8          6          2          2
37. Kansas State        176                 11       6          0          0          0                     
38. Maryland              167.5              17       5          3          1          0
39. California              153                 12       6          4          0          1
40. Syracuse              150.5              12       5          2          1          0         
41. West Virginia        149                 14       6          2          0          0
42. Boise State           146                 10       4          2          0          0
43. North Carolina      144                 15       7          1          0          0         
44. Navy                     143.5              11       8          7          0          1
45. Brigham Young     143                 12       3          2          1          0
46. Illinois                   137                 11       6          3          0          0
47. Purdue                 135.5              15       5          1          0          0
48. Duke                    133                 16       5          2          0          1
49. Boston College    119.5              10       4          2          0          0
50. Oklahoma State   116                 10       3          2          0          0
51. Houston               114.5              13       5          2          0          0
52. Baylor                  113.5              13       2          0          0          0
53. SMU                    113                 11        6          3          0          1
54. Northwestern       105                  9        5          0          0          0
55. South Carolina     103                 8         3          1          0          0
56. Washington State  98                  9         4          0          0          0
57. Louisville               96                  7          2          0          0          0
58. Oregon State        95                   7          3          1          0          0
59. Utah                      91                   6          3          2          0          1
60. Texas Tech           84                   8          0          0          0          0
61. Mississippi State  79.5                10        1          0          0          0
62. Kansas                 76                   6          3          0          0          0
63. N.C. State            70                   10        0          0          0          0
64. Rice                     66                   8          4          1          0          0
65. Pennsylvania       60                   7          3          0          0          0
76. Arizona                58                   7          2          1          0          0
67. Fordham             58                   6          2          1          0          0
68. Kentucky             56                   8          2          0          0          0
Virginia                      56                   6          0          0          0          0
70. Santa Clara         55                   6          2          0          0          0
Air Force                   55                   5          2          0          0          0
72. Tulane                 50.5                7          2          1          0          0
73. Tulsa                   49                   6          1          1          0          0
74. Miami (Ohio)       48                   5          2          0          0          0
75. Cornell                 43                   5          1          1          0          0
76. Indiana                38                   5          2          2          0          0
77. Cincinnati            37                   3          1          0          0          0
78. Dartmouth           35                   5          1          0          0          0
Princeton                   35                   4          2          0          0          0
80. Iowa Pre-Flight.   34                   2          2          1          0          1
Yale                           34                   4          0          0          0          0
82. Wyoming             33                   3          1          0          0          0
83. Duquesne            31                   3          2          0          0          0
Colorado State           31                   3          0          0          0          0
85. Holy Cross           26.5                5          1          0          0          0
86. Villanova              26                   3          1          0          0          0
87. Rutgers                25                   4          0          0          0          0
Southern Miss            25                   3          0          0          0          0
89. March Field          22                   2          2          0          0          0
90. Utah State            21                   1          1          0          0          0
Central Florida           21                   1          1          0          0          0
Marshall                     21                   1          1          0          0          0
93. Bainbridge NTS   20                   2          1          1          0          0
94. Great Lakes         19                   2          1          0          0          0
95. Randolph Field    18                   1          1          1          0          0
William & Mary          18                   3          0          0          0          0
East Carolina             18                   2          1          0          0          0
Toledo                        18                   2          0          0          0          0
99. Carnegie Tech      15                   1          1          0          0          0
Nevada                      15                   1          0          0          0          0
101. Vanderbilt           14                   1          0          0          0          0
St. Mary’s (Calif.)       14                   1          1          0          0          0
103. Del Monte P-F   13                   1          1          0          0          0
Pacific                        13                   2          1          0          0          0
Hawaii                        13                   2          0          0          0          0
106. Wake Forest      12                   3          0          0          0          0
107. Georgetown      8                      1          0          0          0          0
108. Norman P-F      7.5                   1          0          0          0          0
109. San Francisco   7                      1          0          0          0          0
110. Fresno State      6                      0          0          0          0          0
111. Boston U.           5                      1          0          0          0          0
El Toro Maines          5                      1          0          0          0          0
San Diego State        5                      1          0          0          0          0
San Jose State          5                      0          0          0          0          0
115. G. Washington   4                      1          0          0          0          0
Hardin-Simmons       4                      1          0          0          0          0
New Mexico State      4                      1          0          0          0          0
Temple                       4                      1          0          0          0          0
Northern Illinois         4                      0          0          0          0          0
119. Fort Pierce         3                      1          0          0          0          0
Colorado College       3                      1          0          0          0          0
Washington & Lee     3                      1          0          0          0          0
Iowa State                 3                      1          0          0          0          0
Bowling Green          3                      0          0          0          0          0
Central Michigan       3                      0          0          0          0          0
125. Columbia           2                      2          0          0          0          0
Delaware                   2                      1          0          0          0          0
Lafayette                   2                      1          0          0          0          0
St. Mary’s P-F           2                      1          0          0          0          0
129. Memphis           1                      0          0          0          0          0
Marquette                  1                      1          0          0          0          0
Ohio University          1                      1          0          0          0          0
Second Air Force       1                      1          0          0          0          0
Virginia Military          1                      1          0          0          0          0